Travel Lessons From Philippe de Vienne

By Amy Chen
August 13, 2008
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Based in Montreal, Philippe de Vienne and his wife, Ethné, travel at least four months of the year. "We really explore the world for spices," he says.

Philippe de Vienne

How has your job changed the way you travel?
We've made friends with people [from?] all over the place, so now very often we stay with them. If we're going to a place where we don't know anyone, we usually reserve a hotel for the first two nights and then play it by ear. Through spices, people have a way of introducing themselves to you—you're at the market, and the next thing you know you're visiting the farm.

How much do you plan your trips in advance?
If we're heading to multiple countries in one trip, we plan the rough outline, such as we'll be reaching southern India at such a date and leaving at such a date, and book the airfare. That part gets very expensive if you go at the spur of the moment. But local plans are never set. You get a better price when you're on the ground.

What are some packing tips you've picked up?
I always take a first-aid kit and duct tape. It's amazing what you can do with duct tape—it's the stuff that holds the universe together. I've made a clothesline, fixed bathing suits, and even patched a ripped suitcase. But don't put it in your carry-on luggage, or else they'll likely take it away from you. And I pack a pocketknife—in my checked baggage. I bring a bottle of good Scotch for when I find myself in a lousy hotel.

What do you wear on the plane?
I wear clothing that's as loose as possible, especially when I'm on a 36-hour flight to Indonesia. I bring a toothbrush, and I bring an extra shirt and pair of socks to change into midway. After 24 hours, to change your underwear feels like a real luxury.

How do you deal with jet lag?
Sleep on the plane. The key is to get on the local schedule right away. Tough it up and drink a lot of coffee or tea and hang in there. Then, when it's nighttime there, pull out the Scotch, have a triple, and go to bed.

What's the first thing you do when you arrive at a destination?
Get to your hotel, adjust to the time zone, and then hit the market. The real news in the country is really the market. In North America, it's the mall.

How do you approach local cuisine?
If people can make a living on a street corner selling food for 20 cents for a day, it's got to be good. They've got to have hundreds of customers a day.

How do you take notes on your trip?
I carry a notepad in my pocket and a digital camera. My wife often carries a diary.

What are some of the travel tips you've learned?
Buy something that you may or may not need. When you buy from people, they're always more talkative. That three dollars you spend is your ticket to a 15-minute conversation about what there is to do. People just want to tell you about themselves and their country. Listen to them, and never ask a leading question. Take a taxi driver's name and number in case you need him the next day.

What sorts of tourist etiquette tips have you picked up?
Learn 30 basic words of any language. Hello, goodbye, thank you, please. You should know those words. All travel books have a do's and don'ts page. Read it! And learn how to say sorry. You're a foreigner. They'll forgive you.

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Meet the 2008 Scouts

Christian Chumbley Regional manager of Asia and Africa trip operations for Backroads, which specializes in multisport tours (backroads.com). On packing "...always bring a headlamp and a dry bag, no matter the trip." On etiquette "It's obliviousness that's offensive, as it calls into question your motivations for travel." More Travel Lessons From Chumbley Scouting Report: Graskop, South Africa Darrell Wade Cofounder of Melbourne-based Intrepid Travel, which specializes in small-group, experiential tours around the world (intrepidtravel.com). On getting around "I always take a business card from the hotel with its address in the local language and writing." On airplane attire "I wear the same thing whether I'm in economy, business, or first class: jeans, a pair of runners, and a T-shirt." More Travel Lessons From Wade Scouting Report: Purnululu National Park, Australia Philippe de Vienne Cofounder with his wife, Ethné, of Épices de Cru, a spice importation and retail business based in Montreal, Quebec (epicesdecru.com), and coauthor of the cookbook La Cuisine et le Goût des Épices. On etiquette "Buy something that you may or may not need. When you buy from people, they're always more talkative about themselves and their country. Listen to them, and never ask a leading question." More Travel Lessons From de Vienne Scouting Report: Gaziantep, Turkey Rick Steves Tour leader, producer of shows for television and radio, writer of a syndicated travel column, and publisher of over 30 guidebooks via his namesake company (ricksteves.com). On jet lag "I deal with jet lag by leaving home well rested and then using a quarter tab of Ambien when I wake too early, to finish the first night's sleep." More Travel Lessons From Steves Scouting Report: Moravský Krumlov, Czech Republic Britt Karlsson Cofounder of BKWine, a Paris-based company that publishes wine newsletters and leads small-group gastronomy and wine tours throughout Europe (bkwine.com). On attire "For a wine tour, you need to have comfortable shoes because you always walk in vineyards. You also stand a lot in cellars, which are cool, so you'll need a jacket. And you shouldn't wear white clothes. It's hopeless." More Travel Lessons From Karlsson Scouting Report: Bergerac, France Dan Philips Founder of the Grateful Palate, an Oxnard, Calif.-based company that sells specialty foods and kitchen accessories, imports wine, and even runs wineries in Spain and Australia (gratefulpalate.com). On attitude "You'll forget everything once, including your passport. You think to yourself 'I'll never travel without underwear,' but then you forget it, and you get by. You just go shopping." More Travel Lessons From Philips Scouting Report: Willunga, Australia Armenia Nercessian de Oliviera Cofounder of Novica, a National Geographic-associated organization with eight international offices that enables local artisans around the globe to sell their crafts over the Internet (novica.com). On packing "I pack at least half a dozen attractive shawls, for example, that are suitable for different occasions. Wearing them can replace the need for five entire outfits." On street food "When the foods are prepared fresh right in front of you, and when you can see that any perishable ingredients are indeed stored, handled, and cooked well, and if many locals are also eating right there, then I say, 'Go ahead, enjoy!'" More Travel Lessons From de Oliviera Scouting Report: Chapada dos Veadeiros, Brazil Nat and Rachael Lopes Cofounders of Hilride, a mountain-bike park and tourism consulting firm that's based in Berkeley, Calif. (hilride.com). On traveling as a couple N: "We've learned not to underestimate the power of sleep deprivation and hunger while traveling with a partner. If you're hungry, you can be cranky." R: "And the power of sitting in the backseat. I might drive while he works in the back, and that extra three feet creates space." More Travel Lessons From the Lopeses Scouting Report: Wilson, Kansas Alisa Grifo Owner of Kiosk, a New York City-based store stocked with souvenirs from her travels (kioskkiosk.com). On bargaining "I never talk people down on a price. If I feel someone is taking advantage of me, I just don't buy from him or her. In certain places, I always factor in a minor markup; after all we are not locals, and it's OK to pay more since, in these cases, we have more." More Travel Lessons From Grifo Scouting Report: Tanabe, Japan John Chatterton and Richie Kohler Scuba divers who inspired the books Shadow Divers and Titanic's Last Secrets (johnchatterton.com, richiekohler.com). On attire "Quite often it sends a message, and if you are working with locals you can't afford to send the wrong one by mistake. Wearing shorts rather than long pants can have a huge impact." More Travel Lessons From Chatterton and Kohler Scouting Report: Weymouth, England